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Free money cost me HOW much?!

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Free money cost me HOW much?!

While Mrs. SSC was paying the bills, she noticed that Discover had a cash-back reward offer for her personal Discover credit card that she uses for her ‘allowance’.  Anyway, Mrs. SSC noticed that there was an offer of “spend $2k/month for the next 3 months and get $300 FREE!” Mrs. SSC thought this was awesome, since we have a second Discover card account that we use as our primary household credit card for bill paying/grocery/gas/etc… type of card that gets paid off every month. So, she went to see if she could sign up for this awesome deal with our household Discover card, and any guesses on whether it was offered on that account or not? Hmmm? Anyone?

No, is the correct answer.

So, for the card we typically have a fairly consistent amount spent on each month, there is bubkus in regards to additional offers. On the more meager monthly spend card (Mrs. SSC allowance spending) there was this nice reward offer. So then, would it be worth it to use that card for groceries and gas and get an extra $300 in a few months? Sure.  But, really Discover just wants her to boost her spending to match that of our other account with them… As my 3 yr old would say in a sing-songy voice “Ooohhh, Discover….”

So, Hooray Us! for getting an offer to get cash back above and beyond their typical rewards, but it strikes me as devious or scheming in how it was presented.

Although, thinking about it now, I guess it’s just plain business. They see someone not spending much on their card each month, so why not try and lure that person to spend 3-4 times the amount they normally spend. Especially with the holidays, if you give a consumer a target of say ~$2k to hit and get “rewarded” with a free $300 to spend at Amazon among other places, well, it would seem that it should be a no brainer to spend that amount and get your “free money”. Then maybe they are over their usual budget and can’t pay it all off at once and then interest accrues. Who wins there? Discover.

But think about this in the case of most consumers.

Hell, let’s use me as an example of said consumer, from just a mere 7 years ago. I carried revolving debt and was constantly paying towards it, because my spend was way over my pay-down each month. Yes, yes, I know, Bad Mr. SSC, and you can read about that more here. But I would’ve been delighted at that offer. Spend $2000/month and get $300? Hell yeah, free money! But is it really? Let’s say I had just 16% interest (I paid late occasionally, so it was probably closer to 18% – cringe!!) over the course of one month, that interest would be $320. Someone check my math, I could be way off…. They’ve already gotten their “free money” back plus $20 if I don’t pay it down for just 1 month. 1 month! That’s it.

So for all those analysts sitting inside the machine that is called Discover, they’ve just earned their bonuses. Think about it. If they get just 10,000 people to accept this offer and not pay their additional $2k spend down for just one month, they made Discover an extra $200,000!! That’s just from the $20 extra per person that doesn’t pay it all down. And that’s not compounding that with the fact it will probably take more than 1 month to pay it down, so just by this one little offer, they will most likely make more than they put out there to give away as free money. Genius Discover, pure genius!

For those not in a situation to pay that balance off, it’s lose, lose. But I wouldn’t have known that or thought about it back in the day, and they would’ve made way more than the $300 they “gave” me. I would have never realized I just stole from myself because it was worded as spend blah amount and get Blah amount FREE!

Have you ever gotten taken by something that seemed great but you realized later, “This free money cost me SO much more than it was worth?”

I’d love to hear that younger Mr. SSC wasn’t the only one that wouldn’t see past that “free offer” and get taken for much, much, more.

Bad Decisions Part 3: Easier credit, harder payments

So, when I left off in “Bad decisions Part 2: Easy credit, hard payments” recall, I had just started using my credit card how the credit card companies wanted me to use it. Racking up debt way beyond what I could pay off each month, and continually adding to it, to inevitably have a lifelong bill and interest payments to “the man”. Remember, they have all the loopholes and technicalities taken care of so a late payment, jump interest to 14%, another late payment, 16%, it rained today? 22%, haha! Okay that didn’t happen, but it sure seems like it could have with the ways the interest rate would keep increasing.  I didn’t really understand that higher interest rate means I’m paying way more for my borrowed money than it’s worth.

 I lived on the edge like that with no savings per se (recall the student loan post) but then, I broke my collarbone mountain biking. At the time, I had decent health coverage through work, but it didn’t cover the unpaid time-off that I had to take to heal. So, while I spent 12 weeks healing, my bills grew higher and higher since I no longer had any income. After that incident, I had a temporary glimpse of how bad the situation was.  I focused and was eventually able to catch up on rent and utility bills, and then I declared in earnest to pay off the credit card.  Well, I didn’t, and I kept using it like it would never have to get paid off. I’d get it close, but then the alternator would go out on the car, or I’d have to fly home for the holidays, or Widespread Panic was in town for a show… I blame myself, but also the company I kept. They lived by the “we can make more tomorrow” philosophy since they were mostly restaurant servers and could pick up extra shifts and have $100-$300 cash in hand at the end of the night. I was in the kitchen, paid hourly every 2 weeks and had no hope of earning extra cash…

What happened next, wasn’t me putting the card away and paying it off. Instead, I got ‘ smart’ and thought I’d go a different route and play the credit card game against them. Remember, I suck at good financial decisions, I can make bad ones all day long.  Anyway, I decided  that I’d get a NEW card and transfer the balance to that card for 0% interest for 12 months, and pay it off that way. I planned to take that extra $100 from interest on the old card that I was now saving, and use it to pay down the principle on the new card. Except, now I had TWO credit cards, and one was empty! I told myself that I would just use the old card a little bit. But next thing I knew, I was in a restaurant ordering microbrews and dinner and realizing, “I don’t have the cash for this, I should go before the tab gets too big.” I was constantly telling myself that this was the last time – tomorrow I would stop spending and pay down the bill…

But, the credit card didn’t get put away, and it became easier to use that card too. Except now, I have two cards, and I’m putting more and more on them. Enter Christmases, birthdays, Opening Day at Coors Field, subsequent ball games, plus music at Red Rocks, Filmore East, The Bluebird, and Boulder Theater! (Have I mentioned how much I love seeing live music?) I love it!  Denver has a great music scene and man did I revel in it. But it costs a lot. The best example of this was when Neil Young came to Red Rocks for a 3 day show. For the first time ever, I wistfully sat to the side and said “I don’t have enough $$ to go. I can’t afford it.” I was in school with some people that went to the first night and it sounded epic, a first set of all electric, then acoustic, then electric (did I mention Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders were there too?) So, come the third night after hearing stories of these epic shows, I decided this is it! I’ve had all I can stand, and I can’t stand no more! I’m going to the show! I marched downstairs after class, went straight to the ATM and it said Checking: $23…. damn…. Savings: $60…. double damn… Well, I get paid Friday (this was Wed) I’m working the rest of the week, what the hell. I emptied my savings and walked out to my car. I stopped at a store to get a sixer for the show, and headed out to Red Rocks. I hit the off-ramp and found many people willing to sell tickets, but I was down to $40. After some haggling I got my ticket for $40! It was an amazing show, one of my top 5 ever, but this was typical of most of most of my financial decisions. Impulse, impulse, impulse, and no thought to future.

Eventually, I set up a system to pay the cards down. I would always write a check towards the cards first thing when I got paid. This worked, but it took $750 off the top of each paycheck just to pay down debt. That’s ridiculous! That’s about  $9000/yr towards paying down debt, so why wasn’t it all paid off in a year? Well, I had a LOT of debt, and instead of “sniper-ing” one card at a time, I was paying $300 to Discover, $300 to Visa, and $150 to Target, yep I even got a Target card…. I mean for 5% off purchases? Yeah, it didn’t pay out for me at all. Plus, by splitting it up over 3 cards, I still spent close to the amount I paid for each card each month through dumb decisions. Maybe one month I’d spend $300 on Discover, then the next month on Visa, the next month on Target. This was not helping me pay down debt.  I at least had been at this a good year or so before I met Mrs. SSC, and when we joined financial forces, I still brought in almost $9,500 of credit card debt to the relationship alone.

Looking back, I realize I could’ve been more efficient with my attempts at paying the credit cards down. By going after the highest interest first, then the next I could’ve save us a year or more of work, but no…Spreading it around and paying a little toward each card just wasn’t effective. However, on the bright side, I was consciously working toward paying them off.

What do you notice that tends to be a recurring negative trend in your finances? What, you’re not tracking them? At ALL?! Whoa, right now, open an excel sheet and type “My money” in the upper cell, and start listing where your money goes each month. It’s that simple. Even starting with large categories like, credit card, mortgage, car payment, insurance, etc… can be eye opening as to where you can cut costs. You’ll probably be as amazed as I was when I actually started “budgeting”. In a few days, I’ll be posting about my relationship with budgets in my Bad Decisions Part 4: Budgets are a four letter word!

 

 

Bad Decisions Part 2: Easy credit, hard payments

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So, when I left off in “Bad decisions: It’s raining student loans” recall, I had been succeeding spectacularly at living above my means utilizing cash infusions through student loans. After school with the bills coming out of my ears, I consolidated those loans, but I had added another $300/month expense to my paycheck off the top. I’m my own worst enemy in a lot of ways, and like student loans, I am almost as bad with credit cards. Fortunately, I don’t have $60k limits on my cards.

My first credit card… oh how I love that memory. I had just spent $700 on frigging books for my first semester and was leaving the used bookstore- yeah these were all used and still added up to $700!! What a racket! Anyway, I passed this little folding table with a cute brunette and some papers on it and she said (in a valley-girl voice, even though we’re in KY) “Hi, Are you interested in applying for a credit card?” I said, “Sure, what’s the catch”? Hahaha, I was and I just didn’t realize it. She said, “None, you just fill out this application, and you’ll get your card in a couple of weeks! Do you have good credit?” I said, “I don’t know, I don’t think I have any credit.” She said, “That sounds great, here’s the application!” It was an application for a Discover card, and while I still have the same account almost 20 yrs later, back then I could only use it at a few places and had to always ask “Do you take Discover?”.

I was good with my Discover card for a long time, mostly because I could only use it at certain places, since they weren’t accepted everywhere back in the 90s. Eventually, I fell off the “good credit card use” wagon and used it like it was tied to actual money I owned (it wasn’t). My downfall started when I was on a crazy New Year’s road trip adventure. I had spent the millennium New Year’s in the Keys because, hey if everything crashed with Y2K, I’m in a good spot right? Except I ran out of money, and somewhere between there and Arkansas to visit family (remember it was a crazy road trip adventure — KY to FL Keys, to AR, back to KY to pack, followed by a move to CO almost 3,800 miles in ~2.5 weeks). I called up to get a cash advancement from my credit card because my bank account was empty and I still had this big trip going on… NEVER do that, it’s like 21% interest and it never gets paid off until you pay off every other dollar first. Big, big mistake. Plus, taking a vacation right before moving across the country and maxing out funds before the move wasn’t the brightest idea either.  So, that was my first run-in with a big bill and having to make an effort to pay it down. I literally put it in a drawer and paid extra toward it and it took almost a year to pay off my huge $1800 card bill. But the point is that I did it, and I paid it off even in those trying financial times as a student.

But I didn’t learn my lesson. As soon as the Discover card was paid off,  my brain was yelling at me ” Guess what, my card’s back in my wallet baby!! yeah!!! Let’s celebrate!!!”   Looking back on that now, it is amazing how much family and friends influence our views of money.   A co-worker once told me about her dad being super broke and unexpectedly coming into a chunk of change ~20k, almost enough to cover his debts, and I said, “Oh, is he throwing a party to celebrate?” and she replied, “How do you know my dad?” I said, “I don’t, but I know my dad, and that’s what he would’ve done with ANY extra money.” I treated my finances similarly, I mean monkey see, monkey do, right?

I would go on to repeat this cycle often. Rack up the card, get it maxed out, I’d even get to pay them extra $$ for maxing out my credit line. It seems counter intuitive, but those bastards have it all figured out with loopholes and technicalities for financial idiots like myself. I loved seeing the statements with the “you’re maxed out, let’s charge you XX% interest for that too!”  posted there.

I used credit for exactly what the name insinuates, a line of credit I could rack up and then pay down and then rack up again in an endless cycle. I didn’t see that I could do the same thing with just saving money… I needed the immediate gratification of “I need this now, I want this meal, I want these margaritas, I deserve this!” That’s how I felt, and I also felt that saying to someone, “I can’t afford that” was admitting failure at life. This led to the majority of my credit card spending. Well that and impulse buys after 11pm on Amazon (damn you one click ordering!!)

A perfect example is my “Richard Pryor night” as Mrs. SSC puts it. My favorite comedian of all is Richard Pryor, I just get all his humor and can connect to it, and it literally makes me laugh, and feel sad, and back to happy every time I hear it, the guy is just so real and out there with his soul. Anyway, one night I was thinking, I have a few mp3 comedy skits, but what could I get on Amazon? A few clicks later, I have almost all of his recorded shows ordered, a couple of cd’s, and some autobiographies, and a book by his daughter. Well, it ended up being ~$120 of Richard Pryor, and as Mrs. SSC puts it, “Richard Pryor stuff was showing up for days on end.” That was from my allowance (see the allowances post) but still, this is a perfect example of my mentality with spending. This is great, I want this, buy. Oh shiny! I want, buy, buy! Oh shiny! repeat…..

The big point is that when I started out with credit cards I used them for  fairly mundane reasons and maybe how they’re intended? Emergencies, car break downs, unplanned contingencies, and not as often to cover a vacation, night out, etc… As you’ll read in my next installment of Bad Decisions 3: Easier credit, harder payments; I cross the line from recreational user to hard core credit card addict. Damn credit cards, damn my impulse buying*, damn my lack of discipline with the 1 week rule because I KNOW I’ll still want some Pryor after 1 week, so why delay it? Impulse buying ruled my life for a long time, and it still takes over occasionally.  Mostly, it’s in check now, and luckily, I have an allowance to reign the wild spending in, whether I like that system or not.

What are the habits you find yourself repeating? What do you do to break them? I’d love to hear about it, because as you can see, I’m still having trouble breaking mine… I’ll go into some of my methods to protect me from myself in my next post, but until then, let me know about yours.

 

 

*Damn! I just found another few albums of his comedy material and have those on their way to my house in 2 days. Yeah allowance! Looking forward to the commute getting to listen to some  “new material”!