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May 2016: Our money went where? It went Bye Bye!

The painful wrap up of May. A lot of big rather unexpected expenses popped up, mostly in the form of auto related expenses. Although as a surprise, we did not dip into savings for these expenses and we still had $953.75 left over, Lol. I’ll highlight the big hitters, gloss over the little hitters and even more importantly, tell the story behind the really big expenses. Let’s start with the little stuff.

Free money cost me HOW much?!

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Free money cost me HOW much?!

While Mrs. SSC was paying the bills, she noticed that Discover had a cash-back reward offer for her personal Discover credit card that she uses for her ‘allowance’.  Anyway, Mrs. SSC noticed that there was an offer of “spend $2k/month for the next 3 months and get $300 FREE!” Mrs. SSC thought this was awesome, since we have a second Discover card account that we use as our primary household credit card for bill paying/grocery/gas/etc… type of card that gets paid off every month. So, she went to see if she could sign up for this awesome deal with our household Discover card, and any guesses on whether it was offered on that account or not? Hmmm? Anyone?

No, is the correct answer.

So, for the card we typically have a fairly consistent amount spent on each month, there is bubkus in regards to additional offers. On the more meager monthly spend card (Mrs. SSC allowance spending) there was this nice reward offer. So then, would it be worth it to use that card for groceries and gas and get an extra $300 in a few months? Sure.  But, really Discover just wants her to boost her spending to match that of our other account with them… As my 3 yr old would say in a sing-songy voice “Ooohhh, Discover….”

So, Hooray Us! for getting an offer to get cash back above and beyond their typical rewards, but it strikes me as devious or scheming in how it was presented.

Although, thinking about it now, I guess it’s just plain business. They see someone not spending much on their card each month, so why not try and lure that person to spend 3-4 times the amount they normally spend. Especially with the holidays, if you give a consumer a target of say ~$2k to hit and get “rewarded” with a free $300 to spend at Amazon among other places, well, it would seem that it should be a no brainer to spend that amount and get your “free money”. Then maybe they are over their usual budget and can’t pay it all off at once and then interest accrues. Who wins there? Discover.

But think about this in the case of most consumers.

Hell, let’s use me as an example of said consumer, from just a mere 7 years ago. I carried revolving debt and was constantly paying towards it, because my spend was way over my pay-down each month. Yes, yes, I know, Bad Mr. SSC, and you can read about that more here. But I would’ve been delighted at that offer. Spend $2000/month and get $300? Hell yeah, free money! But is it really? Let’s say I had just 16% interest (I paid late occasionally, so it was probably closer to 18% – cringe!!) over the course of one month, that interest would be $320. Someone check my math, I could be way off…. They’ve already gotten their “free money” back plus $20 if I don’t pay it down for just 1 month. 1 month! That’s it.

So for all those analysts sitting inside the machine that is called Discover, they’ve just earned their bonuses. Think about it. If they get just 10,000 people to accept this offer and not pay their additional $2k spend down for just one month, they made Discover an extra $200,000!! That’s just from the $20 extra per person that doesn’t pay it all down. And that’s not compounding that with the fact it will probably take more than 1 month to pay it down, so just by this one little offer, they will most likely make more than they put out there to give away as free money. Genius Discover, pure genius!

For those not in a situation to pay that balance off, it’s lose, lose. But I wouldn’t have known that or thought about it back in the day, and they would’ve made way more than the $300 they “gave” me. I would have never realized I just stole from myself because it was worded as spend blah amount and get Blah amount FREE!

Have you ever gotten taken by something that seemed great but you realized later, “This free money cost me SO much more than it was worth?”

I’d love to hear that younger Mr. SSC wasn’t the only one that wouldn’t see past that “free offer” and get taken for much, much, more.

Bad Decisions Part 3: Easier credit, harder payments

So, when I left off in “Bad decisions Part 2: Easy credit, hard payments” recall, I had just started using my credit card how the credit card companies wanted me to use it. Racking up debt way beyond what I could pay off each month, and continually adding to it, to inevitably have a lifelong bill and interest payments to “the man”. Remember, they have all the loopholes and technicalities taken care of so a late payment, jump interest to 14%, another late payment, 16%, it rained today? 22%, haha! Okay that didn’t happen, but it sure seems like it could have with the ways the interest rate would keep increasing.  I didn’t really understand that higher interest rate means I’m paying way more for my borrowed money than it’s worth.

 I lived on the edge like that with no savings per se (recall the student loan post) but then, I broke my collarbone mountain biking. At the time, I had decent health coverage through work, but it didn’t cover the unpaid time-off that I had to take to heal. So, while I spent 12 weeks healing, my bills grew higher and higher since I no longer had any income. After that incident, I had a temporary glimpse of how bad the situation was.  I focused and was eventually able to catch up on rent and utility bills, and then I declared in earnest to pay off the credit card.  Well, I didn’t, and I kept using it like it would never have to get paid off. I’d get it close, but then the alternator would go out on the car, or I’d have to fly home for the holidays, or Widespread Panic was in town for a show… I blame myself, but also the company I kept. They lived by the “we can make more tomorrow” philosophy since they were mostly restaurant servers and could pick up extra shifts and have $100-$300 cash in hand at the end of the night. I was in the kitchen, paid hourly every 2 weeks and had no hope of earning extra cash…

What happened next, wasn’t me putting the card away and paying it off. Instead, I got ‘ smart’ and thought I’d go a different route and play the credit card game against them. Remember, I suck at good financial decisions, I can make bad ones all day long.  Anyway, I decided  that I’d get a NEW card and transfer the balance to that card for 0% interest for 12 months, and pay it off that way. I planned to take that extra $100 from interest on the old card that I was now saving, and use it to pay down the principle on the new card. Except, now I had TWO credit cards, and one was empty! I told myself that I would just use the old card a little bit. But next thing I knew, I was in a restaurant ordering microbrews and dinner and realizing, “I don’t have the cash for this, I should go before the tab gets too big.” I was constantly telling myself that this was the last time – tomorrow I would stop spending and pay down the bill…

But, the credit card didn’t get put away, and it became easier to use that card too. Except now, I have two cards, and I’m putting more and more on them. Enter Christmases, birthdays, Opening Day at Coors Field, subsequent ball games, plus music at Red Rocks, Filmore East, The Bluebird, and Boulder Theater! (Have I mentioned how much I love seeing live music?) I love it!  Denver has a great music scene and man did I revel in it. But it costs a lot. The best example of this was when Neil Young came to Red Rocks for a 3 day show. For the first time ever, I wistfully sat to the side and said “I don’t have enough $$ to go. I can’t afford it.” I was in school with some people that went to the first night and it sounded epic, a first set of all electric, then acoustic, then electric (did I mention Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders were there too?) So, come the third night after hearing stories of these epic shows, I decided this is it! I’ve had all I can stand, and I can’t stand no more! I’m going to the show! I marched downstairs after class, went straight to the ATM and it said Checking: $23…. damn…. Savings: $60…. double damn… Well, I get paid Friday (this was Wed) I’m working the rest of the week, what the hell. I emptied my savings and walked out to my car. I stopped at a store to get a sixer for the show, and headed out to Red Rocks. I hit the off-ramp and found many people willing to sell tickets, but I was down to $40. After some haggling I got my ticket for $40! It was an amazing show, one of my top 5 ever, but this was typical of most of most of my financial decisions. Impulse, impulse, impulse, and no thought to future.

Eventually, I set up a system to pay the cards down. I would always write a check towards the cards first thing when I got paid. This worked, but it took $750 off the top of each paycheck just to pay down debt. That’s ridiculous! That’s about  $9000/yr towards paying down debt, so why wasn’t it all paid off in a year? Well, I had a LOT of debt, and instead of “sniper-ing” one card at a time, I was paying $300 to Discover, $300 to Visa, and $150 to Target, yep I even got a Target card…. I mean for 5% off purchases? Yeah, it didn’t pay out for me at all. Plus, by splitting it up over 3 cards, I still spent close to the amount I paid for each card each month through dumb decisions. Maybe one month I’d spend $300 on Discover, then the next month on Visa, the next month on Target. This was not helping me pay down debt.  I at least had been at this a good year or so before I met Mrs. SSC, and when we joined financial forces, I still brought in almost $9,500 of credit card debt to the relationship alone.

Looking back, I realize I could’ve been more efficient with my attempts at paying the credit cards down. By going after the highest interest first, then the next I could’ve save us a year or more of work, but no…Spreading it around and paying a little toward each card just wasn’t effective. However, on the bright side, I was consciously working toward paying them off.

What do you notice that tends to be a recurring negative trend in your finances? What, you’re not tracking them? At ALL?! Whoa, right now, open an excel sheet and type “My money” in the upper cell, and start listing where your money goes each month. It’s that simple. Even starting with large categories like, credit card, mortgage, car payment, insurance, etc… can be eye opening as to where you can cut costs. You’ll probably be as amazed as I was when I actually started “budgeting”. In a few days, I’ll be posting about my relationship with budgets in my Bad Decisions Part 4: Budgets are a four letter word!

 

 

Bad Decisions Part 1: It’s raining student loans!

SSC student loans

When I was in college and  grad school, I took out much more in student loans than I needed, to try to live above my means, and I have only recently started to understand the financial ramifications and lament the decisions that the younger Mr. SSC made. Let’s start at the best place to understand these decisions: The Beginning!

The problem started a long time ago when I was working on my Bachelor’s degree.  At first, I was undeclared and attending college simply because that is what I was supposed to do.  Initially, I was attending Western Kentucky University (WKU) on a Pell Grant while also working long hours at a restaurant to foot the other bills. I got the shaft when my mom married a judge and they claimed me on income tax and it derailed my Pell Grant status. After a couple of semesters paying for school myself, I took some time off to figure out what I wanted to do, and if it even involved college. My time-off resulted in a long hiking trip, and the decision to go back to school to pursue an environmental science degree. I declared my major, registered for classes, and was introduced to the wonderful world of student loans and it was amazing! They’ll “give” you money to go to school! This was brilliant! I could get a student loan, pay for school, and have some cash left over for living expenses. After all, it was ‘deferred’ – not that I really understood at the time what that truly meant. This was like getting the free money of an income tax refund two more times a year. Awesome!

Obviously, I started taking out student loans. Fortunately, the school was in-state tuition, so not very expensive. Nonetheless, I still managed to rack up about $12k in loans over my 1.5 yrs there. In August 1999, I went to Colorado to visit family and fell in love with the area.  By January 2000, I was enrolled at the University of Colorado at Denver and studying full time in the geology program.

Upon transferring to CU Denver, I did myself several disservices. First, at WKU I had completed all my required elective courses, and only needed 3 semesters to complete my new major. However, CU Denver classified things differently and I needed another 30 hrs of electives (ten more classes), almost 2 whole years because I could only manage 12 hrs a semester while working. Even worse I had to take math! Two frigging yrs of math! Gah! A whole semester of trigonometry only, and a yr of algebra, and a yr of calculus and I’m sure there was a semester of regular geometry, shit, that’s 3 yrs of math, see how bad at it I am? That just added more time and $$. Second, I was now an out-of-state student subject to out-of-state tuition. This was three times the in-state tuition price. “This was fine”, I told myself, “it will only be for 2 semesters, so it won’t be that bad”. Subsequently, my school loans jumped from about $5k/semester to ~$16k/semester* for tuition alone with almost no left over funds for subsidizing living.

My plan was to live in Denver, work and go to school downtown, and be able to play in the mountains in my free time- now that’s the life! Except I now had to study a lot just to pass stupid math classes and work full time and be broke, so I didn’t get to the mountains much except to hike some 14’ers on the occasional weekend day I may have had off. Sigh….   I was maxing out loans and still working full-time at a good restaurant job, so I had that income, but no savings or contingency in case of an accident. I felt this was fine though. I was investing in me, and my future, and with this degree, surely I’d get a good job to cover these loans.

However, with my poor finance skills, I wasn’t keeping an accurate tally of how much I’d actually borrowed. Take that back, every year I got a statement that said “you owe $XX amount in student loans”, but, I’d glance at it and throw it in the trash. What I wasn’t considering was the payback. Yeah, they eventually want their money back! Gah!!! Meanwhile, I kept borrowing and taking as much as they’d give me, and it was like a breath of fresh air each semester when I’d get that check for $3-5k extra. I was so excited that I could catch up on bills, and restock my savings which was empty again (damn thing was always empty, how does that happen?).  I even had a little extra money to be able to go out with friends.**

Eventually, I was out of school and had a good job as a geotechnical engineer. Yeah, I’m not an engineer, but I played one at work. It was a decent gig, I loved the job and it paid about $45,000. I was starting to live the dream baby! Then I started getting bills, a LOT of bills for my student loans. Kentucky wanted money for the WKU loan, Colorado wanted money for the CU Denver loan,  and Sallie May wasn’t my friend anymore, but more like an angry ex-wife. My monthly bills were close to $500. I freaked out after covering them for 3 months when my savings died and I was still paying. I got a great rate and consolidated them all at ~2.25% interest. Hell yeah! That’s some personal financing! I cut my bill in half almost, and now just had one bill to pay, and I set it up to a separate bank account so when I overdrew my main account (yes this happened more often than not) it would still get paid. Good job Mr. SSC, let’s go out and celebrate!

I ended up going back to grad school, and got those loans in deferment as quickly as possible, whew! There’s an extra $300 a month! Now, for more student loans… Yep, I still took out student loans even though grad school tuition was paid for. I was even getting a stipend of ~$20k/yr just to go to school. But I had tasted the good life at $45k and couldn’t go back! Actually, I’m just a sucker for bad financial decisions, and I racked up another $12-15k maybe in grad school loans. See, I still don’t know… Ultimately, I was in for over $60,000 when it was all said and done.

I could have helped us get to FI and leave work to stay at home almost 2 full yeas sooner if I’d been more financially sober in my decision-making. I don’t regret the decisions I made, hell it’s what makes you the person you are – good decisions, bad decisions, ugly decisions. The main point is that by being so financially reckless in my younger days, I prolonged my work life by at least a few years.

I hope that you may be able to learn from my poor decision-making and realize that yes, you can save enough and retire early. Like early 40’s early, even with a late start in life. Hell, I made the worst of the worst decisions, and I cashed out a 401k at 28, it was up to $12000! Still, I’ve been able to recover in spite of myself. For me, it took changing my mindset of living as if there’s no tomorrow and instead looking toward a future with no work and more family time. You may want to have that time with family too, or just fishing, gardening, or doing whatever you want, but until you break that mindset of “I’ll pay it back later” it’s just not going to happen.

Let me know if you’ve made any stupid decisions you realize cost you a few more years getting to FI or early retirement. Check back for more installments of the series Bad Decisions, there have been a lot… Next up — Bad Decisions: Easy credit, hard payments.

 

 

*I tried to appeal the third semester of out-of-state tuition to have it switched to in-state, but I lost the appeal and paid the full 3 semesters out-of-state tuition, because administration loves technicalities in their favor.

** Working at a restaurant had its advantages. I got $2 pints at work (off clock, of course) and a free meal each shift (so, ~6 days a week). BUT, my friends were all servers and got $100 – $300 a night. They were always saying “let’s leave the cheap drinks here and go anywhere else to get more expensive drinks, or out to dinner, sushi anyone?”.  I was running with the wrong but fun crowd, and I didn’t want to be different. So I would go and just charge it to a credit card if I didn’t have the funds available (which was always).